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kingstoken) wrote2020-01-10 08:07 pm
kingstoken) wrote2020-01-10 08:07 pm
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Supernatural S15 Trialer for the Second half
Saw this earlier, and I watched it like ten times, but it's hard to find someone to discuss it with, maybe because it's the weekend. So, if anyone wants start a discussion, speculate, theorize with me in the comments, please do!
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Chuck being an asshole watching the end of the world on TV (in a Radio Shed apparently).
Jody: "She's dead, Sam."
::meep::
That could mean so many people. One of her kids? Donna? Someone else?
The shot of Bobby and Jody together made me squeak. I love Bobby, even if it's only alternate dimension Bobby.
And Kaia was in a lot of shots. Will she be important?
Dean looking dapper in his white suit and hat. (Which I'm sure is Chuck-fuckery, but still.)
And Billy!
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I was so surprised to see dark Kaia, I really thought they were just going to drop that storyline, but I'm pleased that they are going to wrap it up.
I am so glad to see Bobby! I hope it's our timeline Bobby, somehow, but even if it is alt!Bobby, just seeing Bobby on my screen makes me so happy!
My theory about white suit Dean is that is Michael!Dean, and they are showing us an alternative universe where season 14 Michael won. Although, someone on the subreddit mentioned that they thought maybe it was Chuck controlling Dean and making him perform, which would be super creepy.
I'm a little worried we didn't see either Jack or Rowena in the trailer, but I'm sure they'll both have roles to play in the finale. Plus, if Billie is back I don't think Jack can be too far behind. I'm super stoked to see if Billie has a plan for Chuck.
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I've been really pleased so far that they seem to be getting the importance of wrapping up old plot threads. (Loved Adam's episode.) So I'm glad they didn't just drop the Kaia plot. Which honestly I'd forgotten about myself because I'd gotten distracted by everything else so now I'm all... I have no idea where Kaia fits in, but cool.
I also got the impression that Dean's outfit was a theatrical Chuck-putting-on-a-puppet-show moment. But that's partly because it was intercut with Chuck sitting down like he was about to watch something and we can't trust that the trailer is cut together in any kind of chronological order. Still, Chuck-fuckery remains my best guess.
I feel like the end should involve someone else becoming the new God. For it to have a solid "end of the road" feeling to the series, something dramatic has to happen that changes the rules of the game entirely. A new God could just put all the demons and monsters back in hell/purgatory where they belong. Either ressurrect unfairly killed characters or at least assure us that they're having a party in heaven and don't want to come back. (I'd honestly love it if the show ended on a heaven party scene with as many actors as they could get available who'd played characters who died on the show.)
So, acknowledging that my "new God" idea isn't even guaranteed, who is most likely to end up in power? Candidates:
1. Castiel has been hinted at multiple times over the series (but I have no idea what could give him the power boost at this point, especially since he's currently getting weaker).
2. Jack (who would obviously need to be resurrected first, but we've got Billie as an option there) has the whole half-angel-son-of-Lucifer thing going for him where no one knows the actual limit to his powers yet.
3. Amara has the power, but I don't think she'd be much of an improvement over Chuck so I don't feel like that would have enough of a finale feel to it. (The boys have experienced the big-bad-replaced-by-worse-bad so many times. God Amara would just feel like one more "Oh, shit, what now?")
4. Billie. If she can get promoted to Death, why not get promoted to God?
5. Sam. He's got the weird magic-bullet connection with Chuck, what if Chuck's power transfers? (Also fun symmetry with Sam as God and Rowena as Queen of Hell.)
Again, not claiming any of these are likely, but all feel possible. (Part of me wants to wrap up one last Supernatural fanfic and move on to something different and part of me is still, "But I've got twenty different story ideas!")
I also like that we still had moments of comedy in the trailer, because I don't want the final episodes to all be doom and gloom. I love that this show has always been able to work in funny lines and moments.
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The new God theory is interesting, but I'm not sure if I'm a fan. I think I would rather some sort of reset happens, whatever that looks like, whether it's people deciding whether they want to be on earth or heaven, demons staying in hell, angels in heaven, etc, and then they just leave people to their own devices, like where you end up in the afterlife, and how you're treated, depends on your own choices. I'm not sure how all our characters are going to fit, I really think Amara is going to have some sort of role, she is obviously some sort of Chekhov's gun, she was reintroduced for a reason.
I have to agree that Adam's episode was amazing, it really got me excited again, because the couple episodes before that were basically filler, and I was starting to get worried. The actor who played Adam, just stole that episode, he did such a great job, it is not easy playing two different characters at once. And, they answered so many questions that had been left open. I'm also glad to find out that our world Michael was not a total asshole, and actually seems to care about Adam.
Also, a shout out to the actors who played Rowena and Donatello. Rowena conveyed a bravado, but you could see a little bit of the cracks under her mask, and Donnie like Adam was two characters at once, when he was Donnie he was funny, but when he became the voice of Chuck he was a little scary. I know this is a terrible thing to say, but I think some of the minor and recurring actors have been upping their game, and actually maybe doing a better job than the guys this season so far.
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I just don't want it to end without a sense of accomplishment. I'd really love some wrap-up that puts all the demons back in hell and monsters in purgatory so the only "supernatural" element left for hunters to deal with would be hauntings (because human spirits will always be stubborn). Imagine a montage of people trying to work dark magic or summon demons and it just doesn't work because New God Billie (or whoever) is just, "Nah, we're done with that shit. You can take that spellbook back to the magic store."
I love that they fixed the Adam story because there were a lot of theories that took it for granted that Adam was being tortured this entire time. And instead we got the best angel-vessel relationship we've seen where Adam and Michael have agreed to share and respect each other.
Donatello is always good. I've seen the actor in other stuff and he often gets stuck playing a villain (like a boring businessman villain type, not the fun kind of villain) so it's nice to see him doing something completely different on Supernatural.
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I agree that seeing a healthy angel-vessel relationship, well as healthy as you can get in this situation, was such a nice twist for this show. Like how many times have we seen angels just not give a shit about their vessels, often leaving them dead or screwed up, with a few exceptions. And here we have Michael and Adam being like "no man, we are not going to be like that". Also, is it wrong that I ship Adam/Michael a little bit? Like a know it would never work, because they share a body, but there was something so refreshing about watching the two of them talk out problems.
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It's possibly the most healthy relationship we've seen on the show.
Fanfic knows no such limitations! And they clearly perceive each other as separate during conversations, I'm sure it's within Michael's power to make that more than just a visual perception.
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